ANCESTRY OF DANIEL, ANDREWS, CLARKE, WOHLMANN, LE CROISSETTE, WOODRUFF AND LINKED FAMILIES

DANIEL, CLARKE, ANDREWS, CROISSETTE, WOHLMANN, WOODRUFF & RELATED FAMILIES

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Notes for John (?Richard) ANDREWS

General Note
His death: 1857 Mar St Giles 1b 242. He died in the Workhouse at Vinegar Yard, South St Giles, certified by the Mater of the Workhouse, H. Fowler. He died of chronic bronchitis. He was listed as a 'Journeyman Plasterer', age 64 years, ie due to turn 65 that year, maybe, so born 1792. This, if correct, would make him older than the 1841 census suggests, but it is notoriously inaccurate.

Not found on the 1851, unless he was the pauper, as below. It looks as if he was this one now that we have his death certificate from the same workhouse. So he if he was 56 in 1851, ie born c.1796/7, this gives a big interval for his birth.The latter is closer to the date suggested by the 1841 census, where ages were rounded up to the nearest 5 years.Many enumerators got it completely wrong and round down to the nearest five years. So if he was '40' in 1841, he would have been anywhere between 40 and 44. If 44, then he would have been born c. 1796/7, which sounds about right.

Biggest puzzle is which Elizabeth he married. Was this her? He would have been very young. ELIZABETH YORKE 19 AUG 1815 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London.

Most likely is that he comes from this next clutch, born to William Andrews and Sarah. The family naming pattern, with a William Henry Andrews (as John baptised his son), looks likely, although it seems they had at least one death among their children, with the name Sarah reused. The wife was probably Sarah Summers, from an old St Giles family. Also, he had a half-brother (we assume) George James. John called one of his own sons George James. This half-brother called his own daughter 'Fanny' (alternative to Frances).

ANN MARIA ANDREWS - Christening: 28 AUG 1785 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

SARAH ANDREWS - Christening: 22 JUL 1787 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

SARAH ANN ANDREWS - Christening: 05 JUL 1789 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

FRANCES ELIZABETH ANDREWS - Christening: 25 DEC 1791 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

JANE MARTHA ANDREWS - Christening: 06 JUL 1794 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

JOHN RICHARD ANDREWS - Christening: 31 DEC 1798 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

WILLIAM HENRY ANDREWS - Christening: 10 JUL 1803 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England

On the marriage certificate of his son, George James, John's occupation is given as plasterer. The Parish Records for George James's birth, however, show that the family was then living at Rose Court, John's occupation being 'Carpenter'. As both are in the building trade, then at least one supports the other to an extent. The parish marriage entry is most likely to be correct, while the other could be a mistranscription into the register.

When originally searching for John's details, examining registers in the area brought no further help. There were 4 John Andrews with wives Mary, Phoebe, Sarah and Elizabeth, all having children around the time George James was born, as evidenced by baptisms at Saint Leonards Shoreditch, batch C040804.

A triumph of investigation in the Holborn area 1841 census, concentrating on the address where George James, John's son, was living when he married, produced the evidence we looked for. John was there, with his wife Elizabeth, at 5 Parsons Court, Farringdon Without in the Holborn area in the 1841 census. Reference 170/726, 2, p24 on the CD Rom. He was 40, she 41, and their daughter Sophia aged 11 was also with them. When his son Charles married Sarah Sophia Swift only 4 years later, they both gave this address. So this has to be the right couple. After years of searching, we now have the bones of the family: John and Elizabeth, son George, daughters Sarah and Sophia, and others traced through certificate material and the IGI.

In the 1851 census, Elizabeth, said to be 'married' so not widowed, is alone at home with William Henry, Sophia and niece Fanny (through John's half-brother George and his wife Eliza) at 23 New St Square, St Bride, 500 yard north of Fleet Street and in the old family area on the eastern fringe of Holborn, off Fetter Lane.

There are two possibilities for John if he was still alive: John Andrews in hospital at the Middlesex Hospital, All Souls, St Marylebone, age 51, born in Wiltshire, Pewsey, a 'coal porter'. It is entirely possible that John had given up building work and found any job he was able to do. As his wife was born at Blandford, it is possible this was our John - the two are only 45 miles apart. However, there was also a John Andrews, a 'pauper' and plasterer (but a widower) in the District Union Workhouse in St Giles, Bloomsbury. This is the right area. Let us suppose he could no longer work (plastering is a backwrecking occupation) and was losing his marbles. This is where he might have finished up, while his wife and son supported themselves at home. This John was born in Middlesex, St Giles, and was age 56, ie born c. 1796/7. There is a suitable death if we suppose he was terribly ill and dying: Jun 1851 Andrews, John, St. Giles &c 1, 74 is not the right one, rather a child of 10 months.

The best way of identifying the family was to trace the parents of young 'niece' Fanny Andrews, age 13 in the 1851 census for St Bride, born in Kennington. This has been effective in uncovering the extended family and identifying John's parents as William and Sarah.

Anyone with information on John's wife Elizabeth, from Blandford, please get in touch.

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