DESCENDANTS OF JOHN CHRISTIAN WOHLMANN
AND RELATED FAMILIES – DE CROISETTES, DANIEL, ANDREWS, MARRIOTT, CLARKE
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David was 'Seigneur de la Croisette' and said, in the Huguenot records, to be a native of
Picardie. He could perhaps have claimed the title through his wife, if she - for example -
were the daughter of a de Croisettes girl. See below. There were Sabatiers in Picardie. From http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/hug/hugsaf.shtml HUGUENOT NAMES IN: {Brittany, Anjou, Touraine, the Orléanais, Normandy, west Ile-de-France, Maine and Perche.) Marais; Sabatier; Basché; Maschepasté; Terrier; Godefroy; Malherbe; Grillon; Rétif; Rousseau; Pinard; Foucher; le Riche; Cronier (Cronje)*; Duthuilé; Drouin; Bruère; Souchay; le Roux; Martineau; Couvret; Valette; Cellier; Avic; du Moulin; Cordier; le Long; Bérault; Baignoulx; ; de Gournay; Néel; Sénécal; le Sage; du Puis; Vivier; Lorée; Auret We know that Doulle was a Picardie name as the de Croisettes and Doulles were linked through acting as godparents to each other's children. Marriage, with his name incorrectly transcribed: DAVID SALATIER Spouse: MARGARET DOWL Marriage: 20 AUG 1688 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England There is a will online for a 'Daniel Sabatier'. I think this has to be David, misread, as the writing is rather obscure. He was a surgeon to the Brigadier ? of the Regiment of Dragoons when he wrote his will. He mentions his sister Ann, wife of Mr Paul ? Low. He signed his will on the 26th November 1690. It is important to note that the 'Seigneur' title does not necessarily equate to nobility, nor to the surname de Croisettes as found in documentation in France.The interpretation is dodgy: Seigneur can be merely a mark of status, like 'Dame'. De la Croisette might refer to his wife's family of 'noble' birth, quasi noble in English terms, rather more like 'squire', lord of the manor, minor people with land and a big house in a village. However, there is no other family with this name around, except some in North America, and the evidence is they were Huguenots and came from Picardie, where the de Croisettes family lived. It is suggested that he used the title - the only one in the family to do so - because his wife was a 'dame de Croisettes', in other words from the grand de Croisettes family. This is a point worth dwelling on. If I am right, and David was one of three brothers (David, Abraham and Jean), then why are his descendants the only ones to adopt the de Croisettes name? I suggest this is because they gained this entitlement through David's wife. The registration of David's marriage and his son's birth is under 'Salatier' or 'Sabatier' (the writing could be read as either if the loop of the 'b' was run into the 'a') confuses matters, unless Sabatier was either a 'dit name' or the name of the householder in whose home his marriage took place or the baptism took place.The second possibility has to be accepted with caution since the child of this couple, Jean or John, married Catherine Thabary under the name Jean Sabatier when he was only 19. There is, however, a third choice, one favoured by the owner of this website, herself a descendant. A search at the Huguenot Society archives in 2004 has shown that David Sabatier sought denization 15th April 1693, four years before the birth of his son Jean (John). A major piece of research, probably in the 1940s to judge by the typewriter used, conducted by the Society for a client (undated) gives the history of the Sabatier family in its records. They were silk weavers from the Languedoc, but included in the research was David's branch. However, the tree produced for the Society's client made no attempt to link the two groups so it seems reasonable to deduce that David Sabatier might not have come from the Languedoc. Indeed, the Huguenot record suggests this family came from Picardie, as did Colard de Croisettes and his descendants. There were Sabatiers in the north of France, so it is entirely possible he came from there, or his father did. It looks as if, to judge by the Parish records in London for Huguenot records, that there were three brothers: David, Abraham and Jean. David lost his life. His brother Jean took on his widow. She died. Jean remarried. So why did David's son Jean baptise his children in the Descroissette name? Sabatier is a distortion of Sabotier, make of clogs or shoes, while de Croissette has a ring of class about it, and after all, in Britain it is common to have two names -- the family surname and the name that goes with the title: Lord Archer goes by the name of Weston Super Mare too. The title Seigneur de Croisette would have had no relevance whatsoever in England, but it is entirely understandable for this immigrant family to wish to enshrine their origins in the name they passed down the family. It looks as though Jean and Catharine quite simply abandoned the Sabatier family name, and plumped for Descroissette or something like it as distinctive and smart. It also seems perfectly understandable for their descendants a couple of generations down the line to seize on the coat of arms of a family (known still to be in France) whose titles included a similar name. People do this. A whole industry in Britain and the USA is founded on selling coats of arms to people whose surnames happen to be the same as someone who bore arms centuries earlier. So what are the facts? David Sabatier and Margeurite Doulle baptised a son Jean. He married, at the tender age of 19, young Catharine Thabary. They had a large family and baptised them all using the French title of Jean's father David, or of his wife's family, perhaps on the maternal side. This is without doubt: it is all written in the Benfleet Bible. It is also without doubt that David Sabatier sought and obtained denization. Denization was, like naturalisation, an expensive process, but it brought relief from the higher taxes levied on aliens. "Letters of Denization and Acts of Naturalization for Aliens in England and Ireland, 1603-1700" by William A Shaw, published 1911 shows David Sabatier on page 229 on the list for 15 April 1693. Reference is made to the Patent Roll, 5 Wm. and Mary part 4, but this was normally only a list unlike some naturalization records. This has now been researched (June/July 2004): The Chancery roll which has the denization record is a huge document with a multiplicity of entries, all in court hand, some in Latin, all on parchment, which would require special photography, at over £12 per shot. The information is the same as in the HO index description from the Huguenot Society and there are alas no details as to occupation or origin along with the names. (Other records do sometimes have these - eg" Henry Sherbell, born at Fridburg in Germany, son of Hartmer" etc).The general entries for the taking of oaths are sometimes though not always in the Commons Journals, and this lead also proved fruitless as did two checks with the House of Lords Record Office. The Bill was from 9 December 1692, read the 2 February 1692/3, and in the HO index the name is spelled as "Sabbatier". There were additional Sabatier references against Jean Sabatier (SP 34/ 29 /7a) on microfilm. These proved to relate to an elderly, formerly wealthy man who had fallen on hard times in 1710. He had only left France a few years previously, and so may not have been related, but he could have been the father of David. He was petitioning Queen Caroline, so was therefore known to her, for a pension so as to support his family. He had lost his businesses in London and in sugar in the West Indies through fire and shipwreck,when he lost his oldest son. This could have been David, as he disappeared from the record.The other Sabatier references were to were legal cases: Sabatier v BAKER, 1769, Nourse v Sabatier, 1769, Sabatier v Puget, 1760. It is quite likely these were London merchants, but Chancery records can be very tricky to work through, and of course the dates do not help with David Sabatier. If there is any link to be looking for in France it is most likely to be to the Sabatier name in Picardy. There were Sabatiers in Picardy. |