DESCENDANTS OF JOHN CHRISTIAN WOHLMANN

AND RELATED FAMILIES – DE CROISETTES, DANIEL, ANDREWS, MARRIOTT, CLARKE


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Notes for Frederick ALLEN

General Note
His birth place is variously shown as Southwark, Clerkenwell, Strand. It sems likely he had not much idea where he was born, as there appears to have been a breakdown in the life of the family when his father died.

His marriage certificate gives Frederick's father as James [not John], deceased, Professed Cook, and Maria Alice's as David William Hoppus, deceased, Foreman to a Rope Manufacturer. One wonders if he really knew his father's name, or whether the enumerator in the 1861 census mistransribed his notes.

Other births: FROM THE GRO 1837ONLINE. None in 1856. March 1857 Lambeth 1d 110, or September 1857 Lambeth 1d 231 or Bermondsey 1d 84 [Note from NSO: 1. 1857 Mar Lambeth 1d 110 - place of birth was not Southwark, mother's forename was not Mary and the occupation was not cook. 2. 1857 Sept Lambeth 1d 231 - place of birth was not Southwark, father's forename was not John or James and the occupation was not cook. 3. 1857 Sept Bermondsey 1d 84 - place of birth was not Southwark, father's forename was not John or James and the occupation was not cook. NOT Dec 1855 Strand 1b 376.

Others Sep 1855 E London 1c page 2, or Mar 1855 Wandsworth 1d 39.

In the 1861 census with his father as 'John', and two of the children, Frederick being one of them, born in Southwark. It is possible he forgot this, or never knew it, especially if he ran away from home or was sent away after his father died (see entry below for the 1861 census) for 12 Angel Court.

John Allen [COOK] abt 1811 Kent, England Head Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

Mary Allen abt 1831 Limerick, Ireland Wife Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

James Allen abt 1849 St James, Middlesex, England Son Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

Thomas Allen abt 1852 Whitefriars, Middlesex, England Son Westminster St Mary le Strand

Ellen Allen abt 1855 Southwark Daughter Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

Frederick Allen abt 1857 Southwark Son Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

Henry Allen abt 1859 St Mary le Strand Son Westminster St Mary le Strand Middlesex

In the 1871 census he is away from home, perhaps in the Strand Union Infant Establishment, a kind of boarding school for children in need. His mother, now widowed, is alone with her son Thomas.

In the 1881 census, he and Alice Maria are at home with their baby. They are yet to get married. The quality of the fiche is terrible, but it looks as thought he was a packer, which figures.

Frederick Allen abt 1856 Middlesex, England Head 22 Grays Inn Rd, St Andrew, London, England

Maria Allen abt 1857 Middlesex, England Wife 22 Grays Inn Rd, St Andrew, London, England

Trinie (probably Doreen, but illegible) Allen abt 0 [probably says 14 months] Middlesex, England Daughter 22 Grays Inn Rd, St Andrew, London, England

In the 1891 census, working as a packer.

Allen, Frederick abt 1856 Clerkenwell Head Clerkenwell London

Allen, Maria abt 1856 Clerkenwell Wife Clerkenwell London

Allen, Alice abt 1879 Clerkenwell Daughter Clerkenwell London

Allen, Edith abt 1881 Clerkenwell Daughter Clerkenwell London

Allen, Frederick abt 1883 Clerkenwell Son Clerkenwell London

Allen, Lizzie abt 1885 Clerkenwell Daughter Clerkenwell London

Allen, David abt 1888 Clerkenwell Son Clerkenwell London

Allen, Robert abt 1890 Clerkenwell Son Clerkenwell London

In the 1901 census:

Frederick Allen abt 1855 Strand, London, England Head Clerkenwell London (China and Glass Packer).

Alice M Allen abt 1855 Poplar, London, England Wife Clerkenwell London

Alfred Allen abt 1896 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Clerkenwell London

Beatrice Allen abt 1894 Clerkenwell, London, England Daughter Clerkenwell London

David Allen abt 1888 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Clerkenwell London

Frederick Allen abt 1883 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Clerkenwell London

Grace Allen abt 1898 Clerkenwell, London, England Daughter Clerkenwell London

Henry Allen abt 1892 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Clerkenwell London

Robert Allen abt 1890 Clerkenwell, London, England Son Clerkenwell London

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